Pepe Domingo Castaño: "they have gone hunting Cifuentes, and if it is searched we all have shit"

Pepe Domingo Castaño (Padrón, 1942) has its own norms in front of a microphone, its own religion in the chain of priests and even a very particular way of understanding football as a consubstantial part of politics, and vice versa.At 76, after overcoming a heart attack, the announcer looks like the brunette of the Galicians who open to the sun's sun.

Between results of the first and the second, Pepe Domingo speaks to Spain about grass cutters, about minivans and several liquors with the music of popular songs that were always there.The eight hours of each live - almost half of the days of the week - do not prevent him from immersing himself in the vericuetos of the present.He, who has had to interrupt the connection with an muddy field more than once when ETA had killed an innocent, does not believe in the forgiveness that the band now stages.

Pepe Domingo receives El Español in an aseptic study of Cope's writing next to a blackboard where someone has sketched a ladder.He longs for the journalism of the Village newspaper.He knows that Iniesta is "brand Spain", he asks for an honorary and immediate golden ball, and begs him to the Fuentealbilla that wets more in the Catalan matter.Companion and friend of the Minister of Sports of Tabarnia, Tomás Guasch, the flags do not say anything, although he can carry them in his shirts, open to the third button.For the coup plotters of Catalonia he does not ask for prison: he still believes in the dialogue.

On occasion he has asserted that Spain is journalistically dead ...

No, no.But she has lost a lot.Do you see any research reports in the newspapers?By research I do not mean looking at corruption, which is easy;That is done to you.Let's go out to the street.I remember the times of the Village newspaper, where were the best reporters that I remember in my life, including García, Raúl del Pozo, Tico Medina, Yale, Marlaska ... I remember that time as one of the greatest that journalism has had in Spain;Every day there were new research, new reports.Journalists lived on the street looking for the news;Now the news gives it to you.

Today's journalism is limited to looking internet, today's journalism is too comfortable.Economically, good journalism is not well paid, with which journalists have to work on several things, they have to do gatherings, and in the gatherings you already know what happens: you have to defend a position.And by defending a posture you are teaching your scarf, your flag, and your ideas, and it is impossible to be objective.The news goes to the newspaper without the personal seal of the journalist.

From being to Cope there was an obvious difference.The irreverent tone of 'game time' and the bishops, for example, had to disagree.

I was afraid of that, to the bishops and the tone of the program.When the problem arose with being I did not want to come to Cope.The Cope at that time was a somewhat strange radio, which did not appear almost in the EGM, and that was, I believe, in a period of brutal degeneration.We were looking for an opportunity in other chains - which were the ones that called us - and none assured us to hire fifty people.The only one, of course, was the Cope, who accepted our conditions and told us that he gave us absolute freedom to do what we wanted.I sincerely hesitated those words;I thought where we got: the bishops, the priests, the Episcopal Conference.I told myself "You will see you, they will massacrate us", but I also thought that in the case of sports the slogans were not so strong.

I can tell you that, since we get until today, no one has called me to tell me anything.And he looks that we have made live live.Burred, irreverences ... I even said that I did not agree with what the Episcopal Conference thought about Catalonia.Another day I said that Letizia was a queen who was quite rude and explained why and nobody told me anything.That is, we have a freedom equal to what we had in the Being.And everything he had against Cope has come down.I am very comfortable, very happy, I don't see any bishop here.I am not married, for example, and nobody has asked me if I am a Catholic, if I am a practitioner, if I go to Mass.With that being said everything.

What would a PEPE Domingo Tertulliano political?

What I don't understand are those journalist gatherings because I don't believe in them.They have invited me a few times and I have never gone;I don't see myself there.I don't see myself because if I go, I would talk about my ideas, and my ideas are not interested in anyone.To a debate you have to go is devoid of your own beliefs to judge something.But if you lean for a acronym, you are missing equity.

Have you tempted politics?

It seems good to me that politicians think in the genre of gatherings, because the politician is defending something he lives.What I do not understand, I insist, is that there are journalists from the PP, PSOE journalists, journalists of citizens or journalists of Podemos.The politician is fulfilling a function, and if the politician, to fulfill that function, he has to resort to the smile instead of the anger, because it seems good to me.Because I prefer a smile than a anger.

I could not be a politician, because I would tell the truth.I would say to the deputies as fists.I would be afraid of myself as a politician.I am talking to you now and I am not going for the usual vericuetos of politicians;And that may be bad, but it is my way of being.In the Tribune of Congress I would be a rare Avis.Tell me some politician who has said the truths as they are.

It is a topic of the discredit of politics in Spain.

Politics is completely discredited.But if a politician goes to a restaurant to have dinner with his woman and he can't dinner quiet!It is tremendous to devote to politics.

Between politics and manipulation is the case of TV3. What opinion deserves the Catalan public chain?

I don't like what I read.I don't like the aggressive line they have taken against everything that sounds like Spanish.I suppose your reasons will have ... everything that is done in this life is due to a reason;They pay the Generalitat and, logically, defend everything that the Generalitat has been defending ... Is that normal?

And yet, after applying 155 there it continues ...

To be on TV3 you have to be worth, you have to have a special shell to do things you don't think;And that is the worst that can happen to a journalist, to tell things in which you do not believe and that can also be false.One of the bases of journalism is the truth, and if you miss respect for truth you are a bad journalist.But hey, hey, here that each one endures his candle.

What do you think of the self -calling "political prisoners"?

Is there no other method to solve the problem of Catalonia than to send people to jail?It is that for that are the politicians, to solve it.I understand that this is a coup d'etat.But I don't think the jail is the place where those who have committed the sin of insurrection have to be.There are other methods, of course, but it does not depend on me to say which ones, that for that there are the politicians who pay them for thinking.

There is a topic that is equivalent to "football is football: it is that" Spain is Spain "...

That is bad, to think that because of Spain, the Spaniards have to be rogues, exploited, disrespectful, envious ... it cannot be.Spain is a set of communities.Because if Spain was not always Spain, it is logical that there are problems among certain communities.

But what is the unity of Spain?

What is the unity of Spain?The unity of Spain is a very beautiful thing, which sounds very good, but it must be taken into account that there are differences between the different communities.It is not the same, for example, Catalonia as Galicia.Or Galicia than the Basque Country, which for me are three communities that should have a different treatment than other communities.

Give me reasons ...

First for the language, and the language is one of the samples that people think differently.And then, that each of them has its story.I do not say that they all separate from Spain, no.I say that you have to talk to them, that you have to talk to Catalonia, because although one of the parties does not want, in the end you have to want to speak.Dialogue is what is going to solve problems.The confrontation, bringing people to the street or jail, will not solve the problem of Catalonia.

Now is about Cristina Cifuentes's decapitation ...

I am very sad about Cifuentes.Have you never stolen in a supermarket?To me that they defense politically for the master's degree seems good to me, because she has lied.And the most important thing in life, and not only in politics, is the truth.In the United States, when you fill in the entrance role, they ask you a series of gilipolleces, as if you want to kill the president.And that is because if one day you try to kill him, you will be judged for trying and, in addition, for a liar.

There is the lie and there is the video of the supermarket.

I do not admit the lie;Now, another thing is to get the video when it is a video that had to be eliminated at 30 days.

Y?

Someone has not eliminated that video.And you have to look how it has been.And you have to look at how it has reached where it has come after so many years and precisely at this time.I think what this woman has is a disease.They told me that she was CleptoMana, that she was cured.I think she must resign, yes, but she has made me very sorry.It is as if they were hunting it and I don't like the fighters.She goes for a person and sews everything bad: someone always has shit.We all have shit.All, sure, without exception.If they investigate us thoroughly, they take something out.And in this case I think they went for her.

It has become fashionable to denigrate the pact, the consensus of 78.

I am against that.After everything that happened in this country, which came from a war that broke it in pieces ... it is very good that the war does not forget, that those who won recognize what they did, and that those who lost claim their people.Dead there were on both sides.But what makes me sad is that, for once we reach an agreement, everything must be changed.

I think that modifying the Constitution is no sin, that if you have to change it, it changes, but always with the consensus of the entire country.If something must be changed, if it is done with the total consensus, without any voice against all political groups, without any dissent, with everyone agree, then a referendum is made.A Constitution does not have to be eternal, you can change: times change, circumstances change ...

Today's Spain is not that of 78, there are other political forces, there are other anxious that has the youth that it did not have then.I understand that maybe the Constitution is a brake on change in the country.But everything, always, with consensus.

The question is evident.How did we get here?

Because politicians have failed to people's trust.The political class of before had a height, I no longer say intellectual, that also, but an impressive personal height.Adolfo Suárez, Felipe González, Fraga Iribarne, Carrillo.They were politicians dedicated to their trade and knew what policy was in capital letters.Now anyone comes to politics.And corruption has reduced the category of politicians to the point that people have lost their respect.Most of them have come to take advantage;You spread a little in the life of a politician and you always find something.

Populism marks the times.

Populism has always existed, what happens is that it was hidden, it was larger there and it did not see it.There have always been people who know how to coat the people with what the people want to hear.

Is nationalism populism?

Right now nationalism has contributed to the hatching of populism.And nationalism seems to me a delay.Now that the world goes to union, to the interrelation of ideas, economies, feelings, who claims nationalism.Unamuno said, I think, that nationalism heals traveling, and I think it is a truth like a temple.

I am Galician, yes, but I cannot say that as "Galicia there is nothing", or that the "Galician octopus is the best the world" if I have not left Galicia.And as with the octopus it happens with ideas.Traveling, comparing the outside of the same, helps you to be equanimous, to be fair and not to be a nationalist.Travel helps to understand others.Your ideas are important, but if you do not respect the ideas of the one in front of you, you are not a Democrat: you are a redomed nationalist.

He has dealt with days when the live carried an attack from ETA.

It was very difficult to make radio when there was an attack.And then the only argument you have for that is to tell people what you feel;What you are feeling with that attack, with what is happening.And tell the listener that life has to continue.You have to try to contribute to the best you know how to do, which is the radio;And I don't say to forget what has happened.But at least you help to cope with it.You can't cry when everyone is crying because then everything would be a sea of tears.We had to alleviate, with the radio, everything that people were suffering.And for that the radio is good: to move from a state of depression to a state ... I no longer say of joy, of calm.

Is the repentance of ETA sincere?

He is not sincere.They have cheated many times and will continue to deceive.

Now bilingualism is a throwing weapon.

Why does the Galician have to be a weapon between two ways of thinking?The Galician is a beautiful, beautiful language, in which people as important as Cunqueiro, Rosalía, Castelao, Castroviejo ... wonderful people wrote.The Galician is to enjoy it, not to discuss it.Now, I also say that a Galician teaching system must be established to maintain and protect it.

In relation to Catalonia, many times 'game time' has told the minute and result of the 'procés'.

We believe that sport also has to reflect what the country is experiencing.Soccer is political in the background.Look if Barça does politics.Or if Madrid does politics in the box, I suppose.Or Atlético de Madrid in his box, because, why do people go to the box?Everything also moves at the political level: hence the interest of many people in occupying positions in football clubs.However, I have not seen political aspirations, and Bartomeu does not have them either.But it lays yes, for example;And he showed them.Football cannot depart from something that goes with the king sport, which is politics.We seemed good idea to incorporate what is happening into sports.

Did the Spanish flags surprised in the culé stands in the final of the Copa del Rey?

I don't believe too much in the flags, but it seems very good that people feel something for a flag.And if the culés that reside outside Barcelona and that they do not live in the first person what is happening there, and believe that Barcelona does not represent him with the stelae ... It seems very logical that they demonstrate their contradiction by taking out the teaching ofSpain.I have several shirts that have the flag of Spain.I don't mind getting the flag.What happens, that by carrying the Spanish flag I will be Facha?I have not been facing in my life, nor will I be now to carry a flag.

Although I don't care about the flags, I bother me that by taking them, a person is automatically a "facha."Or as Serrat, that by saying that he was against how the declaration of independence was organized, they called him "Facha."But where are we that we don't respect anything?Serrat is in all his right to protest against something he does not like: for his freedom, for his independence, for the clarity of his ideas ...

Tell me something about Iniesta.

Iniesta is the best Spanish footballer of all time.Iniesta, Suárez and Gento;In that order.

Iniesta seems to me the exact definition of what an ideal footballer seems to me.He is a humble man, a simple man, who has never made extemporaneous statements, and has always belonged to the same club.He has been a soccer player with colleagues.And he on top of a great player.He brings together all the qualities of the full footballer.And the world of football has been unfair to him;I would ask those who deliver the Golden Ball to solve his mistake and give him an honorary gold ball for not having given it in 2010, which is when they had to have granted it.They gave it to Messi, who did nothing that season.

Would it be iniesta good ambassador to what they call the "Spain brand"?

Iniesta could be a good ambassador of the "Spain brand."In addition, he has never said a word higher than another in this conflicting theme of Catalonia;He has remained in a prudent equidistance.Although it would not be bad to say something to know what he thinks.To the big figures you have to ask them to get wet.The only thing that would need Iniesta to be complete is to get wet on the subject of Catalonia, although that can cost him to be enhancing one part and congratulating the other.But in life that is the difficult thing, making decisions.

Since Galicia left in 1966 and came to Madrid, both his life and Spain have changed a lot.What balance does he do?

The balance is good.I lived a time when Franco was, in which there were things that could not be said or do.But at that time you had to manage them to make your way and look for your life.In 66 I had been in Santiago for two years, and I realized that I had done everything there.I went from Padrón to Santiago to adventure.And the same to Madrid.I looked for a coincidence.I started the year in Madrid, the new life, on January 1.

I confess that the first two years were very complicated and I was about to return to Galicia.But I was saved by pride, the Galicians have a very involved pride within the soul.And that to return, to return to my town without having triumphed, it would have been somewhat tremendous for me and for my family.

Was there also a lot of vocation?

The vocation is defined in the words that Cela said: the one who resists wins.Because if you don't serve, time will show you.In this profession, the first thing is to convince you that you are good in what you do, and who knows it is best;And once you are convinced, fight for it.Because what they say that the train only passes once is a lie: the train passes twenty times, what you have to succeed is what train you take.

You come from a very particular radio school.

Notice that I thought I was not going to last so long.The radio, when I heard it in my town, in Padrón, it was a radius of neighboring patio, walking around the house, competitions, programs without too much entity.And it was then that he arrived at Bobby Deglané radio and gave a total turn to the medium.He turned the radio what had to be: a show.He took the radio to the street.Deglané turned a wedge, an ad, a football match.He was the inventor of modern radio.And the next one that took the witness of Bobby Deglané, for me, was Joaquín Prat.Joaquín added something else to the radio: his personality, which was brutal.

What was Joaquín Prat like?

Entering with Joaquin in a bar was like entering with an earthquake;And if people didn't greet him, he greeted people;Thing that for example I am incapable.I am so shy that I enter the sites looking at the ground;Joaquín Prat no.He was an uncle who gave others, and that showed on the radio.I loved it.I dreamed of meeting him from the town, and when I met him, he was a tremendous shock because he behaved very well with me.He received me with an indescribable affection, demonstrating the good person he was.Working with him was one of the great moments of my life.From him I learned that: the radio show, the personal radio, the credible radio, the cheerful radio, the radio that is true and the direct radio.

The EGM data confirms them as audience leaders with 'game time'.

Well, you can't believe this data.The same thing they give you today, tomorrow you lose it.In the course of three months everything changes in this trade.

There is a lot of 'mili' shared in the program team ...

Man, it's many years together.To get an idea: I carry with Paco González since 92 (in being and in Cope), and we have never discussed.He thinks that in those years there could have been some difference;And more, if there has been, the same radio has solved it.And I sincerely believe that that, just that, is the best demonstration of the level of affection we have.Also, do you know how important it is to share not only radio, but glasses, meals, spree, sorrows?When something happens to someone, we are going to death with him, as when Paco happened (his murder attempt at his woman).And all that you have lived and shared makes you a family.

I suppose that when they left the being there were fidelities, betrayals, disappointments, blame.I think of José Ramón de la Morena ...

I have very the guilty scale of each.And really, the only culprits that I find when I look back are three people: Augusto Delkáder, the great boss of all that at that time;Raúl Rodríguez, who was the lieutenant of Delkáder;and Dani Anido, the third in command order in those days.These three people were not able to achieve a friendly agreement with Paco González.I tried by all means to fix that to not have to leave the being, but everything was impossible for the closure of the chain controls then.

What is saved by radio today?

The radio saves us from monotony.You turn on the radio when you need company, or when you need information.Or you turn it on those days that you feel that you are a little touches and you say: "I'm going to put the radio to see if it encourages me."The radio can be an animator, a generator of feelings.I loved doing programs to excite people: I have that facility.From time to time, in summer, in the corner of Pepe, I tell my experiences in life, with music.

Where does the future of the medium point to?

I think the future of the radio has to be something else.I met with Paco (González) several times because I was going to leave the radio this year, and talking to him, I said: “Paco, have you thought you are going to do when I leave it?(...) Another Pepe Domingo I don't advise you. ”

And I simply do not advise another Pepe Domingo because I understand that there must be another system of incorporating advertising into a program like play time.You have to invent something new that I still don't know what it is.I can lend them a hand, but the idea has to start from them.That there will be another style, of course.But we will have to look for it, we will have to try it, and that must be done now.There are days that I see what I have ahead and I get welcomed.It is that they are sixty different advertising mentions during a program.What would be the great idea on the radio that would replace the current one?Well, maybe a group of people, a choral advertising, in which the solo voice was not one, better several.And that I think they are working.

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